Cut by half the number of soldiers' booklets
By Sead Numanovic
The International Community wants to help all the nations in both entities -
the RS and Federation, with a promise that one builds a better life with
confidence - the responsibilities of BiH and those of the entities are
clearly and certainly stated in the Dayton Agreement which is above all the
Laws in this area
SARAJEVO, July 30th - Carlos Westendorp, High Representative of the United
Nations for BiH, received our Editor in Chief, Tomo Maric, and a journalist,
Milenko Sajic, at his office in Sarajevo and gave an exclusive interview on
the occasion of the fifty-fifth anniversary of the "Glas Srpski". Not even
one question directed to Mr. Westendorp remained unanswered nor did he make
any "fences" for any topic that was discussed during the almost two-hour
conversation.
The arrest of war criminals will be one of the High Representative's
priorities in the forthcoming period. This "forthcoming period" could be an
extendable formula, but Carlos Westendorp might do all that is in his power
to make this period shorter. He stressed more than once the importance of
arresting war criminals, above all Radovan Karadzic.
I do not think this is primarily SFOR's obligation. I
respect what was written as their authorisation in the case of arrest of war
criminals. There are also other authorities that have the right and
obligation to deal with this problem. Therefore, I want to be very precise
about this. SFOR's authorisations are very clear. However, there are other
countries or organisations that are capable and ready to arrest certain war
criminals.
Westendorp says that a meeting of the Peace Implementation Council
will be held in Madrid in mid December. The meeting will be held at
ministerial level and will discuss tasks for the future period.
But it can already be said that refugee return and privatisation
will be among the most important tasks.
When it comes to the elections for the BiH Presidency, there
is much speculation about the possibility of "electoral engineering" that
would enable the election of "suitable" members for this body. Croats, or
more precisely, the HDZ are afraid that the International Community might
vote for the Croat member of the Presidency - Kresimir Zubak.
The International Community has the obligation of neutrality
in these processes. Both parties, the HDZ and the NHI, declared themselves
for Dayton implementation, and that they are democratic parties. We have to
trust their word, and it remains to be seen how dedicated they will be. The
problem is that in some places with a Croat majority, local leaders are
obstructing the process. Therefore it is necessary for Zubak and Jelavic to
understand they have to replace those who obstruct the peace process. This
is very clear and it is not aimed against Croats. We understand the problems
of this people. We realise they are a minority, so we wish to protect them
just as all other people. This does not mean we shall tolerate behaviour
that aims towards separation, segregation, preventing the people coming to
their homes, like recent problems in Vitez, or this man in Orasje, that made
me say to Jelavic that we cannot work with such people. I trust those who
say they will co-operate in the DPA implementation are honest. But those who
do not wish this have to be replaced, regardless of the level of office they
hold.
The draft Law on Privatisation was recently adopted at the
state level. Along with it, it was published that OHR will establish an
independent commission, which will monitor this process and ensure its
regularity.
I am just preparing to establish this commission. The task
is urgent, for announcements in the press give us reason to believe that
this is the right move. Three or four people will make up this commission,
and the public already knows its purpose. Besides, we believe the number and
the value of soldiers' foreign currency booklets, presented to Federation
soldiers, have been overestimated. It is about nine billion DEM, and our
assessments show the true value is about half of this amount. If this was
done for political reasons, those who do it have to be aware that money
given to soldiers is being taken from other people - ordinary people. The
privatisation that has been done for example with hotels in Neum, that are
the property of the Zenica Steel Factory employees, and the privatisation of
some enterprises in Sarajevo, I think should be revised by this commission.
Everything that was not done in accordance with the law we shall have to
abolish.
Who is going to do that, the commission?
No. The commission is a body of the Office of the High
Representative. It has no authorisation. If its members estimate that some
procedure in this area was carried out illegally, I shall consider it and I
will not hesitate to cancel it.
When will the revision process start?
First of all, all these cases are very well known, but we
need more information and discussions with the authorities.
That means after the elections?
No, why? The revision process can start even now. Of course
the whole process will take time, but it is not connected with the
elections. Therefore, as soon as the commission is constituted, it will
begin considering the cases. We shall afterwards recommend to the entities
what they should do, and if they do not carry this out, I shall act without
hesitation.
Why has the establishment of the commission been delayed? Is
it true that some circles at the International Community did not agree with
your idea on its establishment, that they demanded the privatisation process
should be conducted without control, undisturbed?
There were some obstacles and misunderstandings in the
beginning, some concerns that this would be another bureaucratic body, which
has an ambition to take away the jurisdiction from similar entity
institutions, that they will prevent privatisation, etc. We have discussed
this very carefully and found a mutual basis for collaboration, so now the
commission can start. It has to happen this week. The Steering Board session
will be held here on September 8. The commission has to start working by
this date.
Is it true that the Americans, above all, resisted its
establishment, and that they demanded no hampering of 'the market forces'?
We have discussed this not only with Americans, but also
with other members of the International Community. The privatisation process
was the biggest problem to engage the financial experts. They believed this
country needs privatisation and were proposing to conduct it as soon as
possible. However, we focused our attention on the social and political
repercussions of this process, if it is not conducted in an appropriate
manner. This country has several different nations; it went through war; so
privatisation is not only a financial matter. That is why we met with
financial experts and achieved, I would say, a happy agreement. I hope the
people in BiH will not lose by the privatisation process. Should this
happen, I would resign my post. This could also happen not only through
privatisation, but also because of other things.
Apart from the privatisation of soldiers' booklets, the
problem of communication aggression is also present in the Federation. The
presence of RTS and HRT is problematic, as well as the installation of base
stations for foreign mobile phones.
Of course. Those are not individual problems. But, speaking
of mobile phones, we are currently negotiating the integration of mobile
telephones into one system. It is absurd to have different systems here.
Although negotiations are very slow, we hope we will achieve agreement very
soon. When it comes to transmitters, the Independent Media Commission (IMC)
is considering two possibilities. The first one is that the re-broadcasting
of programming should be based on principles of press freedom, during the
elections and after this period. We monitored the HRT programme and
determined they are not neutral and do not respect the rules of the IMC.
After the negotiations the IMC had with the HRT General Manager, the quality
of pre-electoral campaign coverage improved significantly. The net problem
is ownership over the transmitters. The question is how many of them are
owned by RTV BHB, and how many by "Erotel". I think we shall also agree very
soon about this too.
Can we expect the IMC will determine the same rules for all
media in BiH, that are using BiH territory and transmitters for
re-broadcasting their programme?
You cannot enforce the regulations only against those who
use satellites. The IMC has authority to act and mechanisms to implement the
regulations regarding everyone else, from regulations on transmitters to
frequency allocation.
You were engaged a lot in customs-system restructuring. Are
you satisfied with the results achieved in this field?
The people who work there are very competent. I would say
the problem is not owing to them, but to those who interfere with the
customs policy from outside. Unknown people or organisations - I can't point
a finger at any one person or party - interfere with this business, and we
have reason to say that the problem of bribing is very present at border
crossings. In order to suppress this we need co-operation not only from
customs and political authorities, but also the neighbouring countries. This
means agreements with Belgrade and Zagreb. We need this in order to compare
customs declarations here with what was shipped from abroad. The circle,
which prevents bribing, is narrowing. The International Community believes
this is one of the essential problems because a lot of money is being lost
or ends in private hands.
Do you intend to prolong the deadline for the application of
those who wish to return to Sarajevo?
I have not discussed this with my associates these days. But
they recently informed me that after the meeting with Mirza Hajric, they
received information that progress has been achieved in returns to
apartments, which were occupied by people who already have other apartments
or houses. But still, we need the data, the figures, who lived in such
apartments before the war, who lives there now, who are those people, what
do they do. If we see a certain progress here, we could be more relaxed when
it comes to the deadline, but if not...
PLOCE HARBOUR
The Ploce agreement is a matter concerning two states,
Croatia and BiH. Discussions about this are being conducted under American
sponsorship, and now Jacques Klein also takes part in negotiations, on the
behalf of OHR. I think the solution of this problem can be found in the
experiences of other European countries. That is why we asked Europeans to
give us their information and experiences of cases like Hamburg,
Amsterdam... We think resolving this matter is important for both countries.
If Brcko and Ploce are open, the traffic can freely develop, the country can
breath freely. Hence, we understand the significance of this matter. When
Jacques Klein and I visited President Tudjman in Zagreb, we expressed our
interest in this problem and stressed the necessity to speed up the whole
process. I think the achievement of final agreement will require lot of time
and pressures. I do not think the whole matter will be solved so quickly.
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